Re: [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis IPR
Glen Zorn <glenzorn@gmail.com> Fri, 23 March 2012 07:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis IPR
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On 3/22/2012 4:39 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hi, > > So IETF LC is done for this and I think my comment below > and the IANA considerations were the only things that came up. > > Could the authors please handle my comment below (and check > I-D nits [1] as well which has a couple of things you may > as well handle at the same time). -07 (yet to be posted) has no problems w/I-D nits except for a spurious warning about a missing references and the incorrect error about the normative reference to RFC 2104. > > For the IANA considerations, IANA asked what to do about the > existing registries in 5296 and I at least didn't know. The > IESG (I asked) felt that best would be to repeat the definition > here and ask IANA to make 5296bis be the reference for those > registries. (See some text by Barry Leiba below that makes > this clear.) If the authors/WG/chairs are ok with that the > can you do it? If you want to do something else, please tell > me what, and I'll do a quick check with the IESG that that'll > not cause a bunch of discusses. Personally, I think it's a really bad idea for people to use RFCs as references for protocol numbers; the IANA registry is the authoritative source, repeating a snapshot of that source in a document that will never change is at best confusing. I would much prefer just adding something like "For the current list of assignments related to ERP, see the IANA registry [EAP-NUMBERS]." where [EAP-NUMBERS] cites http://www.iana.org/assignments/eap-numbers/eap-numbers.xml. ... > On 02/21/2012 05:22 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Not about IPR as it happens, but caused by looking at that:-) >> >> I just happened to be looking at this and I've only now >> noticed that there is actually no reference for RFC5296 >> in the body of the document, which I guess isn't quite >> right. (Yes, the meta-data is fine, and yes the >> abstract says it, but without a reference.) >> >> Sorry not to have spotted this before but I bet that >> it'd generate a nit-picking discuss so maybe better >> to head that off before we go there. >> >> I'd suggest adding a sentence to end of the introduction >> saying something like: >> >> This document updates RFC 5296. [RFC5296] The main >> changes are foo and bar. >> >> Or maybe something like: >> >> This document contains a set of minor updates to >> RFC 5296 [RFC5296] based on implementation and >> deployment experience. >> >> Or whatever is actually the case. >> >> And then add the (informative) reference of course! OK, so during the IESG review of RFC 3588bis, we got nit-picking discusses about referencing RFC 3588 because it would be obsolete soon. Seems like a no-win situation to me... ...
- [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis IPR Tina TSOU
- Re: [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [HOKEY] New one-week WGLC limited to 5926bis … Glen Zorn