Re: [Homenet-babel-sec] [babel] What's up with HNCP security?

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Sun, 28 May 2017 22:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Homenet-babel-sec] [babel] What's up with HNCP security?
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> I am not holding my breath on my motivation to add support for the
> shared keys in HNCP to hnetd, as I still believe in security-by-l2-zones
> design that I am running in my home and not l3+ security for each protocol.

As you know, you've convinced me.

> (or very hefty bribe,

Please share with your friends.

-- Juliusz