Re: [homenet] Comments about Section 3.4.5 of draft-ietf-homenet-arch-10 (Home Networking Architecture for IPv6)

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 21 September 2013 23:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Comments about Section 3.4.5 of draft-ietf-homenet-arch-10 (Home Networking Architecture for IPv6)
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Hi Tim,
At 16:13 18-09-2013, Tim Chown wrote:
>This could be expanded to be clearer, and to distinguish the ability 
>to determine which homenet traffic came from (which is the 
>perspective above) from the ability to determine which machine in a 
>home particular traffic came from.
>
>In the former case I believe the above text is OK.
>
>In the latter case it depends how frequently the Privacy Address the 
>device uses changes - in most cases IPv4 NAT "hides" the internal 
>device better than IPv6 Privacy Addresses.
>
>Would that type of clarification answer your concern with the text?

I suggest dropping the first paragraph in Section 3.4.5.  The second 
paragraph already points to RFC 4941.  I would have to read the draft 
again to be able to provide a better suggestion.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy