Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-haddad-homenet-gateway-visibility-00.txt

james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com> Fri, 28 October 2011 23:02 UTC

Return-Path: <jhw@apple.com>
X-Original-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FA011E808B for <homenet@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -106.562
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aTNdMN0Ilwye for <homenet@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C8311E8089 for <homenet@ietf.org>; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qUKhnxNCMXUmagSu7xbUfg)"
Received: from relay15.apple.com ([17.128.113.54]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LTS00MZVTCJBF33@mail-out.apple.com> for homenet@ietf.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-AuditID: 11807136-b7c19ae0000072b0-55-4eab34a0aa16
Received: from ba0301a-dhcp89.apple.com (ba0301a-dhcp89.apple.com [17.193.14.217]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay15.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id B6.E4.29360.0A43BAE4; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:02:56 -0700
In-reply-to: <69D5F8A3-7A6D-4307-8024-695512792D5B@townsley.net>
To: "homenet@ietf.org Group" <homenet@ietf.org>
References: <20111024201837.8598.92335.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <A7719003-BA3A-4F43-A7E7-E22B0895639B@ericsson.com> <90B01617-3743-4B6A-99D1-F0159BB56331@orandom.net> <69D5F8A3-7A6D-4307-8024-695512792D5B@townsley.net>
Message-id: <D61E9155-5966-4DFF-AA5C-F60ABA46601E@apple.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1)
X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieJDvpu4Ck9V+BtseClm8X3SIxYHRY8mS n0wBjFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGYt3nmYt6DeueHhqF0sDY7NOFyMnh4SAicSJKZtZIGwxiQv3 1rN1MXJxCAmsYJI419ABlmATUJH4dvkuE4jNK2AssebWO7A4s0CCxOdpt8HiwgKBEjufbwSL swioSpz4NJUdxOYUcJB4PXkBWFxEQF/i6ZFfUAtuM0q8/TibGWKojcT32WeYIa6Ql2j5eodt AiPvLCT7ZiHZB2FrSyxb+Jp5FiMHkK0jMXkhI6owhP3x/BGmBYxsqxgFi1JzEisNTfUSCwpy UvWS83M3MYJCr6HQbAfjjr9yhxgFOBiVeHgdnqzyE2JNLCuuzD3EKMHBrCTC++IxUIg3JbGy KrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjivI/9qPyGB9MSS1OzU1ILUIpgsEwenVAPjRs7oV+ceHrr8/drv K/WmLywnX/s5qanSQblHyWjq1en7tqT/al/x+0HN5P3sTZeuWLPXNhx033z+eJ6Z6cZrp2z2 9MzY6BGVt3qNv8n3TSGX7mmzqjzfxKC2IWiSh9oftlWyfUHKMXvkn+/JY8yWe2rxxCRTYvqu 6R+Szuwp498Wd0hIL+lhvBJLcUaioRZzUXEiAFdYFCw5AgAA
Subject: Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-haddad-homenet-gateway-visibility-00.txt
X-BeenThere: homenet@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <homenet.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/homenet>, <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/homenet>
List-Post: <mailto:homenet@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet>, <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:02:57 -0000

On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Mark Townsley wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2011, at 6:42 PM, David R Oran wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Wassim Haddad wrote:
>>> 
>>> This memo describes a mechanism designed to increase the home gateway visibility on the home network that it is serving.  This includes knowledge of all IPv6 addresses configured using prefixes assigned by
>>> the home gateway and advertised by router(s) attached to it.
>> 
>> The draft says "In such scenario, it can be useful for the HGW(s)
>>  to keep track of all IPv6 addresses configured by different types of
>>  end devices that get attached to the home network via router(s)
>>  connected to the HGW(s)."
>> 
>> but give zero justification for WHY it might be useful. I can't think of any reason at all, but I assume you can but just thought it too obvious to write down.
>> 
>> Could you educate me?
> 
> Ray and I would like to know as well, in particular we're trying to see where this fits into the homenet architecture (considering the 5 areas we are chartered to target as well). If nothing else, we need to know this in order to fit it into the Taipei homenet agenda assuming you want some time to discuss it there.

Looks to me like somebody really wants the functionality of I-D.woodyatt-ald, only just for IP addresses and not for protocol and port numbers as well.  If you gonna hoover up everything, why not go big?


--
james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com>
member of technical staff, core os networking