Re: [homenet] Lars Eggert's Abstain on draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-19: (with COMMENT)

Hi,

We just published today the latest version today, so you can rely on
the one published in the datatracker.

Yours,
Daniel

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 9:46 AM Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lars,
>
> I am just doing a follow-up regarding the comment "This simply isn't
> implementable as described.". We would like to know if the current version
> is addressing that comment or if there is anything else that we need to
> clarify.
> Note that the document has undergone quite a lot of clarifications, and we
> expect to publish a new version as soon as the datatracker re-open. It's
> probably worth waiting for that new version (unless you read the one from
> github).
>
> Yours,
> Daniel
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 9:22 AM Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> I have removed the section related to dynamic update which is a non
>> technical section that everyone discusses. Such discussions had been
>> endless and unhelpful in the homenet wg. We thought this section would
>> close some of these discussions, but it seems it reopens others. We do not
>> want to discuss speculation regarding one or the other protocol.
>>
>> We are happy to understand why you think the protocol cannot be
>> implemented, but currently we do not see anything that supports this.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:10 AM Lars Eggert via Datatracker <
>> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Lars Eggert has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-19: Abstain
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I agree with the Discusses and Comments on this document - this simply
>>> isn't
>>> implementable as described.
>>>
>>> My main reason for abstaining is something else though. This document
>>> has been
>>> worked on for almost ten years. While in the beginning, we might have
>>> expected
>>> or at least hoped that a solution in the shape that this document tries
>>> to
>>> describe would see adoption, it's become very clear that dynamic DNS
>>> services
>>> as described in Section 4 have won out here. These services are far from
>>> perfect, but at least some of the limitations in Section 4 have been
>>> addressed,
>>> and others are arguably a feature and not a limitation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Migault
>> Ericsson
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Migault
> Ericsson
>

-- 
Daniel Migault
Ericsson