Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 17 June 2016 22:02 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:01:45 -0400
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Subject: Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
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Yes, exactly.   Thanks for putting it so succinctly, Suzanne.   :)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’d like to gently suggest that if the long-running discussion on the
> topic of special use names in DNSOP has taught us anything, it’s that the
> behavior people would like to have from DNS resolvers, users, etc. for a
> name is of primary importance. The choices of name resolution protocol,
> format of a name in presentation and on the wire, and other characteristics
> of the context for resolution are more important than the specific string.
>
> The discussion so far, and RFC 7788 AFAICT, assume that homenet is talking
> about names that are compatible with domain names. However, the discussion
> has not been clear about exactly what conditions are assumed around
> handling those names.
>
> What defines a special use domain name is how it is *used*. Without
> details of how it’s to be used, it’s impossible to determine
> characteristics for suitable strings, such as “must be human-friendly” or
> “doesn’t matter if it’s known to collide with another set of
> names/resolution context cues” or “must result in a specific response when
> presented to DNS resolvers.”
>
> The answers to the questions in RFC 6761, Section 5, are intended to
> constitute a description of how a proposed special use name is special in
> its use. Without answers to those questions, it’s simply not clear what’s
> special about the proposed names or what limits are appropriate to put on
> strings that might be reserved for that use.
>
>
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> > On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's much better not to do this. I think that the model of hiding
> >> ".local" is wrong for just this reason.
> >
> > Please explain more. Is it that I should be able to copy and paste from
> the
> > UI to my command line?  How is showing .local in the GUI important?
>
>