Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 17 June 2016 22:02 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:01:45 -0400
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Subject: Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
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Yes, exactly. Thanks for putting it so succinctly, Suzanne. :) On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I’d like to gently suggest that if the long-running discussion on the > topic of special use names in DNSOP has taught us anything, it’s that the > behavior people would like to have from DNS resolvers, users, etc. for a > name is of primary importance. The choices of name resolution protocol, > format of a name in presentation and on the wire, and other characteristics > of the context for resolution are more important than the specific string. > > The discussion so far, and RFC 7788 AFAICT, assume that homenet is talking > about names that are compatible with domain names. However, the discussion > has not been clear about exactly what conditions are assumed around > handling those names. > > What defines a special use domain name is how it is *used*. Without > details of how it’s to be used, it’s impossible to determine > characteristics for suitable strings, such as “must be human-friendly” or > “doesn’t matter if it’s known to collide with another set of > names/resolution context cues” or “must result in a specific response when > presented to DNS resolvers.” > > The answers to the questions in RFC 6761, Section 5, are intended to > constitute a description of how a proposed special use name is special in > its use. Without answers to those questions, it’s simply not clear what’s > special about the proposed names or what limits are appropriate to put on > strings that might be reserved for that use. > > > > Suzanne > > > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> > wrote: > > > > > > Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > > > >> It's much better not to do this. I think that the model of hiding > >> ".local" is wrong for just this reason. > > > > Please explain more. Is it that I should be able to copy and paste from > the > > UI to my command line? How is showing .local in the GUI important? > >
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Peter Koch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Erik Kline
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Jacques Latour
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home avri doria
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Tim Wicinski
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ralph Droms
- [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ralph Droms