Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture presentation and document

james woodyatt <jhw@google.com> Mon, 21 November 2016 19:34 UTC

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On Nov 16, 2016, at 17:31, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> But, do you agree that publishing your home lighting controller to the DNS is
> how you manage to control your lights from your phone when you are out of
> wifi distance, as you roam to 3G. (I switch to 3G when I get to the front of
> my rather modest driveway, as the AP is in the back of the basement)?

If anybody is currently shipping, or has announced plans to ship, any kind of home automation device that does this, please speak up on the mailing list. I’d like to calibrate my perhaps mistaken apprehension that nobody would seriously consider doing this. Everyone I know in this field plans to do this by providing a single public rendezvous point with high availability servers that communicate in turn to home automation controllers acting as private clients.


--james woodyatt <jhw@google.com <mailto:jhw@google.com>>