Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture presentation and document
"Ray Hunter (v6ops)" <v6ops@globis.net> Thu, 01 December 2016 15:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture presentation and document
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james woodyatt wrote: > On Nov 16, 2016, at 17:31, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca > <mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>> wrote: >> >> But, do you agree that publishing your home lighting controller to >> the DNS is >> how you manage to control your lights from your phone when you are out of >> wifi distance, as you roam to 3G. (I switch to 3G when I get to the >> front of >> my rather modest driveway, as the AP is in the back of the basement)? > > If anybody is currently shipping, or has announced plans to ship, any > kind of home automation device that does this, please speak up on the > mailing list. I’d like to calibrate my perhaps mistaken apprehension > that nobody would seriously consider doing this. Everyone I know in > this field plans to do this by providing a single public rendezvous > point with high availability servers that communicate in turn to home > automation controllers acting as private clients. > > > --james woodyatt <jhw@google.com <mailto:jhw@google.com>> > > RFC3724. > End user choice and empowerment, integrity of service, support for trust, and "good network citizen behavior" are all properties that have developed as a consequence of the end-to-end principle. Rendezvous points are themselves an attack vector/ anti-privacy snooping vector/ commercial lock-in/ convenience, depending on your point of view. So please let's empower the end user to either "opt in" or "opt out". -- regards, RayH <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach>
- [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture present… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Tim Chown
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Markus Stenberg
- [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About Ted'… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Ca By
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Tim Chown
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Tim Coote
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Gert Doering
- [homenet] Back to Ted's draft [was: Firewall hole… Juliusz Chroboczek
- [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxying [w… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Tim Chown
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Understanding DNS-SD hybrid proxyin… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … james woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… Ray Hunter (v6ops)
- Re: [homenet] About Ted's naming architecture pre… james woodyatt