Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET
Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Sat, 04 April 2015 02:44 UTC
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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:44:25 +0900
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > In the light of the above figures -- can I trust an IETF working group to >> understand that a huge amount of effort has been put into removing >> mechanisms from this protocol, and to respect that work? > > > Yes, I think that the requirement for minimal mechanisms and a simple > easy to implement and troubleshoot protocol can be clearly expressed. How > well the WG handles this depends in part on the WG chairs and how strongly > the participants are reminded of that requirement and how stringently the > need > for truly active consensus is focused on. > Alia - can we put something to that effect in the charter? There is a real risk that any WG working on standardizing babel will start proposing lots of changes to the protocol (due to NIH syndrome, general bikeshedding, etc.), alienating its author and leading to lost time and the usual failures of design-by-committee. To avoid this, can we see to it that the charter of any group chartered to take babel to proposed standard status be chartered to do so without making substantial changes to the protocol mechanics? That way, if the protocol works well as is, we'll get a standard soon. If it doesn't, the WG can always throw up its hands and fail fast.
- [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET Terry Manderson
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Terry Manderson
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Terry Manderson
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Gert Doering
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Paul Duffy
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… James Woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Terry Manderson
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… joel jaeggli
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… George, Wes
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Alia Atlas
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Terry Manderson
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ralph Droms
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Ray Hunter
- Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HO… Lorenzo Colitti