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Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About Ted's naming architecture...]

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Mon, 28 November 2016 21:33 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:32:51 -0800
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To: james woodyatt <jhw@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About Ted's naming architecture...]
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:11 PM, james woodyatt <jhw@google.com> wrote:

> [**] Before anyone asks, the answer is "No, I will not write a security
> architecture draft for HOMENET that prohibits passive listeners on
> unmanaged networks receiving inbound flows from unauthenticated hosts over
> public Internet routes. If that’s how it should unfold, then I’m confident
> the working group will find somebody with the necessary moral flexibility."
>

I don't think there is any point writing such a document since it is
unlikely gain consensus anyway.

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