Re: [Hotrfc] [117attendees] Final IETF 117 HotRFC Talk Solicitation

Kaippallimalil John <john.kaippallimalil@futurewei.com> Sun, 23 July 2023 02:47 UTC

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From: Kaippallimalil John <john.kaippallimalil@futurewei.com>
To: Liz Flynn <lflynn@amsl.com>
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Subject: Re: [Hotrfc] [117attendees] Final IETF 117 HotRFC Talk Solicitation
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Hi Liz,
Could we use these (v3) set of slides for the HotRFC presentation (Alternative Optimizations for Low Latency Media Handling)

Thanks,
John


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Subject: Re: [Hotrfc] [117attendees] Final IETF 117 HotRFC Talk Solicitation

Hi John,

This is to let you know that we received your HotRFC abstract. You'll be on the agenda.

If you will be participating remotely, which is fine, please let us know (so we're not looking around the room to try to find you, during the HotRFC slot).

Thanks for already providing your slides! If you have any changes to make, please send me an updated version by tomorrow so I can make sure we get the updates in.


To help others help you - please make sure you're clear on what you want from other participants. You might be looking for people to help you on new proposals, specifications, implementations, or a variety of other things. You can put that in your slides, or just say it out loud, but don't let it be a mystery!

And thanks for participating in HotRFC!

The HotRFC Team



Liz Flynn
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On Jul 21, 2023, at 7:23 AM, Kaippallimalil John <john.kaippallimalil@futurewei.com<mailto:john.kaippallimalil@futurewei.com>> wrote:

Hi Liz,
I would like to present on the following topic:

  *   Talk title: "Alternative Optimizations for Low Latency Media Handling"
  *   Presenter: John Kaippallimalil, Futurewei, in-person. (-- working with Spencer Dawkins, Tencent & Sri Gundavelli, Cisco)


  *   Wireless networks (3GPP) implement optimizations to drop groups of media packets of low priority during transient wireless resource congestion periods.
However, there are two related problems that need to be considered.
(1) evolving media encoding for AR/XR with avatars, video, etc can result in inaccurate classification in the (wireless) network with current mechanisms.
(2) dropping groups of packets may result in confusion on the server side about rate adjustment and packet pacing as these wireless congestion periods are very short (in the order of sub-ms).


  *   Looking for people who are passionate about low latency media to exchange ideas.


  *   Side meeting on Tuesday 25, July, 11:30 - 13:00 @.Golden Gate 4
  *   Media Header Extensions for Wireless Networks (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kaippallimalil-tsvwg-media-hdr-wireless)


Slides are attached here.

Thanks,
John


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Subject: [117attendees] Final IETF 117 HotRFC Talk Solicitation

Do you have an idea, problem space, or proposal that IETFers and IRTFers should hear about?
Do you want to propose IETF or IRTF work but aren't sure if your idea is ready or who else will be interested?
Agenda requests are now being accepted for the Request for Conversation (HotRFC) lightning talk session. Presenters will have 4 minutes to make their case for conversations.. Interested folks can contact the presenter and continue the discussion after the session.
Goals include encouraging brainstorming conversations, helping new work proposers find collaborators, raising awareness of relevant work going on elsewhere, and promoting BarBoFs. Past HotRFC lightning talks have covered a broad range of purposes, including:

  *   Collaboration: proposals for new standards work or new research topics that haven't been discussed elsewhere, potentially relevant research that may be ready for the IETF

  *   Notification: new topics on the agenda in a BOF, working group or research group, especially cross-area IETF work

  *   Enlightenment: updates on relevant technologies, industry advances that could affect IETF participants.
With strict time limits, concise talks will give viewers a sense of whether they'd like to know more and, importantly, coordinates on how to do so.
With the current hybrid IETF meeting format, we're going to keep things simple and permit only live presentations, either on-site or remote via MeetEcho. Slides must be submitted in advance.
To request a slot, submit a short abstract to hotrfc@ietf.org<mailto:hotrfc@ietf.org> no later than Friday, 2023-07-21, 2400 UTC that includes the following

  *   Talk title

  *   Presenter, Affiliation, and whether you'll be presenting in person or remotely

  *   Short topic abstract (topics should be IETF- or IRTF-related in some way)

  *   What you're looking for (education, collaborators, implementers, etc.)

  *   Coordinates to learn more, contact those involved, participate in existing mailing lists and scheduled meetings, and/or relevant formal or side meetings.

  *   Any relevant drafts or helpful resources you'd like collaborators to look at
To provide slides, submit ppt or pdf to hotrfc@ietf.org<mailto:hotrfc@ietf.org> no later than Saturday, 2023-07-22, 2400 UTC.

  *   Talk abstracts and slides  will be posted on the meeting agenda. The agenda will be updated as requests come in.
The session will be on Sunday, 2023-07-23, at 1800 local IETF meeting time

  *   All talks will be presented live, whether in-person or via MeetEcho
  *   Video of the session will be recorded for later viewing.
Spencer Dawkins and Liz Flynn will be hosting the session on-site.  We hope you'll tune in.
-- the HotRFC team
P.s. If you think holding a public side meeting would be useful for people who are interested in your topic, there's a wiki for that, at https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/117/sidemeetings.
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