Re: [Hotrfc] IETF 119 HotRFC Talk Request

Liz Flynn <lflynn@amsl.com> Thu, 14 March 2024 23:26 UTC

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Hi Adrian,

This is to let you know that we received your HotRFC abstract. You'll be on the agenda. 

I’ve uploaded your slides to the Datatracker here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-hotrfc-sessa-11-personal-digital-agent-protocol-pdap-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-hotrfc-sessa-11-personal-digital-agent-protocol-pdap-00> 

Please let me know if you have any updates to your slides or abstract before Sunday!

Thanks,

Liz Flynn
Project Manager / IETF
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> On Mar 15, 2024, at 7:04 AM, Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com> wrote:
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> Resending the request with a new subject line. Please let me know when it’s posted.
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> Thanks,
> Adrian
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> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com <mailto:agropper@healthurl.com>>
> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 13:32
> Subject: Fwd: [119attendees] Final IETF 119 HotRFC Talk Solicitation
> To: <hotrfc@ietf.org <mailto:hotrfc@ietf.org>>
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> Talk title
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> An IETF standard at the intersection of large scale personal data with generalist Large Language Models
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> Presenter, Affiliation, and whether you’ll be presenting in person or remotely
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> Adrian Gropper, HIE of One - Presenting Remotely 
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> Short topic abstract (topics should be IETF- or IRTF-related in some way)
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> The goal of the Personal Digital Agent Protocol (PDAP) is to design a standard that _intentionally_ disadvantages large corporate interests in favor of cooperatives, unions, congregations, clubs, professions, etc… that support their individual members who are facing an increasingly asymmetrical relationship with BigTech. The human rights foundation for PDAP is the Freedom of Association and Assembly. The security framework is primarily IETF GNAP.
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> Generalist Large Language Models (LLM) like Microsoft GPT-4 and Google Gemini have a network effect on par with TCP/IP. But, because LLMs operate near the top of the stack instead of the bottom, their impact on individuals is much much greater. Some call this the Human-to-AI Alignment problem.
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> PDAP as a standard is conceived to be a component of an AI alignment solution by operating at the interface between personal data access policies and the generalist LLM. 
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> What you're looking for (education, collaborators, implementers, etc.)
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> I’m looking for collaborators and implementers to plan a charter conversation at IETF 120 Vancouver.
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> Coordinates to learn more, contact those involved, participate in existing mailing lists and scheduled meetings, and/or relevant formal or side meetings.
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> There’s a pre-workgroup mail list at pdap@ietf.org <mailto:pdap@ietf.org> Please join at 
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pdap <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pdap> 
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> Any relevant drafts or helpful resources you’d like collaborators to look at
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-gnap-core-protocol/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-gnap-core-protocol/> is proposed as the security foundation for PDAP. 
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> SLIDES: Attached
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> To provide slides, submit ppt or pdf to hotrfc@ietf.org <mailto:hotrfc@ietf.org> no later than Saturday, 2024-03-16, 2400 local meeting time.
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> Talk abstracts and slides  will be posted on the meeting agenda. The agenda will be updated as requests come in.
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> The session will be on Sunday, 2024-03-17, at 1800 local IETF meeting time  
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> All talks will be presented live, whether in-person or via MeetEcho.
> Video of the session will be recorded for later viewing.
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> Shuping Peng and Liz Flynn will be hosting the session on-site.  We hope you’ll tune in.
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> -- the HotRFC team
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> P.s. If you think holding a public side meeting would be useful for people who are interested in your topic, there’s a wiki for that, at https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/119/sidemeetings <https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/119/sidemeetings>.
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