[hrpc] Re: Slides Vienna talk today on Cloud computing and Internet governance resilience

[Timothy Holborn <[e-mail]>]

FWIW: i've been updating a solid implementation - which is MIT licensed,

Website: https://mediaprophet.github.io/Solid-CSS-Databox/
Code: https://github.com/mediaprophet/Solid-CSS-Databox

still a work in progress, moreover intended as a tech-demo, for integrators
- who might help shops set-up solid protocol based solutions that run
locally on a mac-mini or similar, enabling rich interactions with consumers
(assuming they've got their own pods! )

Then i've been updating my work on machine readable human rights, etc.
https://ns.webcivics.net/

AFAIK - human rights sites / instruments, aren't traditionally machine
readable? bots have told me, that they get no-robots or similar; in
anycase, there's more updates to do in that area also, but perhaps try it
out - ask your fav AI bot to review ns.webcivics.net or particular
considerations therein.

then; that's part of dev work https://mediaprophet.github.io/qualiaDB/
which is https://github.com/mediaprophet/qualiaDB/blob/main/LICENSE

there's a range of draft standards efforts intended docs
https://mediaprophet.github.io/qualiaDB/manuals/standards/ &
https://mediaprophet.github.io/qualiaDB/manuals/standards/init-draft-standards-wip-main/
which are not yet set-in-stone, as the implementation is still being done
(likely done to some-degree by sep / version 0.1.0, also not sure how i'll
seek to go about it);

There's some some-what dodgy videos about it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxvoLibywY&list=PLCbmz0VSZ_vrgjYi3p4lLr7gM8EsFt1TD&index=17


the latter ones were scripted from the content produced by a bot that did
an audit of the code-base (its developed further since)...

for those that can, you could download the code and test it out,
particularly in relation to the scope of a person as a natural person,
rather than agent for an incorporated entity of any kind, which doesn't
have an available license for the use of the work at this time; noting,
that i'm intending to get it to the point where the collaborative projects
stuff is working, to enable further development of it socially thereafter;
noting, part of the design, intends to seek to address various digital
slavery related probles that would otherwise make humanitarian ict efforts,
unworkable.

When its done, it also runs on a mac-mini or similar, and/or a phone.
'personal platform provider', enabling the digitasl extension of self,to be
an inalienable part of self - whilst enabling decentralised discovery
(subject to rules) of biometrics, etc.) - lots of notes in the codebase,
noting, that its still in early implementation stages...

it has solid interoperability functionality built in also..

kind regards,

timothy holborn.


On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 at 21:47, Corinne Cath <[e-mail]> wrote:

> The hollowing out happens in many different ways, not just limited to the
> examples of the loss of technical expertise, control over core operations,
> changes in organizational culture, and budget realignment that i mentioned
> in my talk (see also page 17-18 of my slides). I think the talk should be
> online in the next couple of days.
>
> I would also highly recommend having a look at the work of the
> programmable infrastructures project at the university of delft, and its
> recent research outputs--my post doc work is based on their theoretical
> framing, and i think they make that argument around how the cloud hollows
> out the organizations that become reliant on it very eloquently:
>
>    -
>    https://www.tudelft.nl/tbm/onze-faculteit/afdelingen/multi-actor-systems/onderzoek/projects/programmable-infrastructures-project
>    - Big Tech Capturing our healthcare system:
>    https://www.tudelft.nl/2022/tbm/how-big-tech-captured-our-public-health-system
>    - Bertulfo, D. J., & Gürses, S. (2026). Engineering infrastructural
>    power over software production: The case of software-as-a-service. *Information,
>    Communication & Society*, 1–18.
>    https://doi.org/10.1080/1369118X.2026.2676635
>    - Gürses, S., & Chander, S. (2024, October 15). V. From
>    Infrastructural Power to Redistribution: How the EU’s Digital Agenda
>    Cements Securitization and Computational Infrastructures (and How We Build
>    Otherwise). *AI Now Institute*.
>    https://ainowinstitute.org/publications/from-infrastructural-power-to-redistribution-how-the-eus-digital-agenda-cements-securitization-and-computational-infrastructures-and-how-we-build-otherwise
>    - Balayn, A., & Gürses, S. (2025). *Regulations for Pigs Biting AI
>    infrastructures⁉ A case for empirically studying AI production to inform
>    and enrich AI governance*.
>    https://chi-staig.github.io/papers/submission20.pdf
>    - Gend, T. van, Bertulfo, D. J., & Gürses, S. (2024). *The PET
>    Paradox: How Amazon Instrumentalises PETs in Sidewalk to Entrench Its
>    Infrastructural Power* (arXiv:2412.09994). arXiv.
>    https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2412.09994
>
> Warmly, corinne
>
>
>    -
>    - On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 3:22 PM avri doria <[e-mail]> wrote:
>    - Hi,
>    -
>    - I listened to the talk, but perhaps have to listen again. I do not
>    - understand the notion of "hollowing out" nor do in understand the
>    - mechanism by which it is done when moving from self/local providers
>    to
>    - the global corporations. While I am not particularly fond myself of
>    the
>    - corporate imperative for ever greater profit, I do not understand
>    how
>    - that changes the priorities of the client. Can the clients no longer
>    - exert pressure on their providers. Can't they mitigate the effect. I
>    - know returning to local providers or doing their own is difficult,
>    but
>    - blending the two should be possible to keep from being overrun by
>    the
>    - "foreign"imperatives.
>    -
>    - On 7/21/2026 05:45, Corinne Cath wrote:
>    - > but that they are particular types of big and driven by a set of
>    - > commercial priorities that hollow out the public institutions that
>    - > come to rely on them.
>    -
>    - Are there ways to mitigate these effects other than never moving
>    their
>    - operations to the cloud. Is it analogous to the effects of addiction?
>    -
>    -
>    - As I said, perhaps I need to listen again.
>    -
>    -
>    - avri
>    -
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