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Re: [hrpc] Review on feminism draft

Sofía Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net> Sun, 09 August 2020 03:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Review on feminism draft
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Dear, Juliana,
> I saw the issue and I think it's very important to work on the types of
> online -in this case gender based- violence you mention. After working a
> few months on this draft and trying to figure out how to connect all
> those feminist principles with IETF work, I was wondering if we may
> better work on two separate drafts, one of them focused on online gender
> based violence.

I think that too as well. We can definitely take inspiration from the
draft-irtf-pearg-censorship for it.

> This is an interesting typology made in Latin America, and based on more
> than 4 years documenting cases.
> 
> https://www.genderit.org/resources/13-manifestations-gender-based-violence-using-technology

This is great! I'll review it this weekend.

> I'll send you an email off the list to continue talking about it.

For sure!

Thanks!

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Sofía Celi
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