Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV?
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 23 August 2018 13:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV?
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> On 23 Aug 2018, at 11:15 pm, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote: > > Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> wrote: >> On 21/08/2018 20:40, Tony Finch wrote: >> >>> What will the backwards compatibility story be? >> >> A / AAAA lookup, in parallel. > > Sorry, I meant on the publisher side. > >>> In the early days, what advantages will there be for DNS operators that >>> will make them want to use this record? >> >> The primary one is the ability to put them at the zone apex (or indeed >> alongside any other record that would currently be precluded by CNAME rules). > > So the plan is that I'll have to get the target names as well as the > target addresses, instead of just the target name (aname / cname) or just > the target addresses. This is not very enticing. The plan is to get to the stage when you are outsourcing the HTTP servers to just have to publish new records with the names of those servers. You only *need* to publish A and AAAA’s for legacy clients. You are also not forced to publish the new record as the clients will continue to work with just A and AAAA records. This matches MX record behaviour but the recommendation is to do all lookups in parallel rather than doing it serially. > Tony. > -- > f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ > North Fitzroy: Northwesterly 4 or 5. Slight or moderate. Showers. Good, > occasionally moderate at first. > > -- > Http-srv mailing list > Http-srv@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-srv -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
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- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Mark Andrews
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- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Mark Andrews
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Martin Thomson
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Mark Andrews
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Mark Andrews
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Ray Bellis
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Tony Finch
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Mark Andrews
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Tony Finch
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Ray Bellis
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Erik Nygren
- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Shumon Huque
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- Re: [Http-srv] Alternative to SRV? Shumon Huque
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