Re: Design Issue: GZIP flag on DATA Frames

James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> Tue, 21 May 2013 16:29 UTC

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From: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
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Well... if I know that I'm sending a file that is already compressed,
why should I be required to attempt running it through the compressor
again? I get what you're saying, but requiring that content always be
compressed is not always optimal.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> In message <CABP7Rbfb92Vxrmxj6fKdt+jpO_Qknq8FRjsu5GZW=17uoi4OFg@mail.gmail.com>
> , James M Snell writes:
>>https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues/100
>>
>>Currently the spec includes a requirement that all user-agents MUST
>>support gzip.. specifically:
>
>>If we're going to include this requirement,  ...
>
> How about just nuking Accept-Encoding, and say that _all_ content is
> gzip'ed, but that it is allowed to use the '-0' uncompressed mode ?
>
> --
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