Re: Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 25 August 2021 01:11 UTC

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Hi Lars,

> On 24 Aug 2021, at 9:11 pm, Lars Eggert via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Section 2. , paragraph 5, comment:
>>   *  uses an ALPN protocol ID [RFC7301] that generically identifies
>>      HTTP (e.g., "http/1.1", "h2", "h2c"), or
> 
> Might want to mention "h3" as part of the examples.

I changed "h2c" to "h3", since h2c isn't widely used anyway.

Cheers,


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