Re: Questiona about timezones

Grahame Grieve <grahame@healthintersections.com.au> Mon, 01 October 2018 10:54 UTC

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From: Grahame Grieve <grahame@healthintersections.com.au>
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:50:43 +1000
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ok thanks. I'm not sure I have the time personally. I'll ask around in the
health standards community to see if there's anyone who wants to take this
up and push it.

Grahame


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:18 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> Hi Grahame,
>
> This has come up a few times. While getting it into Web browsers would be
> difficult (thanks to the inherent privacy issues, as well as the existence
> of other solutions), defining it for non-browser applications simplifies
> the problem somewhat, and based on the number of times it's come up, might
> see some take-up.
>
> Personally, I like the proposal in:
>
> http://www.w3.org/mid/DBDF1A48B00F2042B20953D2ACE4968806A0ADE526@sha-exch14.shared.ifeltd.com
>
> If you (or someone else) wanted to sketch out a proposal in an
> Internet-Draft, we could discuss it and decide whether there's consensus to
> adopt.
>
> That said, the gating factor is likely to be finding someone who's willing
> to put in the work of editing a document. If we can find people to help in
> that process, would you be willing to do so?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/mid/DBDF1A48B00F2042B20953D2ACE4968806A0ADE526@sha-exch14.shared.ifeltd.com
>
> > On 26 Sep 2018, at 11:18 am, Grahame Grieve <
> grahame@healthintersections.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > We've run into a problem with the FHIR HTTP API to do with timezones
> (FHIR = HTTP API for healthcare). TImezones are hard to deal with, and we
> can't nail everything down (duh!). There's cases where the server needs to
> know the client's timezone to perform certain tasks correctly on behalf of
> the client, and the client wants to know the server's timezone to fully
> understand certain outputs
> >
> > The classic response is for this to be handled by javascript client
> side, but that doesn't work for a data (json) API. Note also that in
> principle, servers should not have a timezone, but in practice, every
> clinical system in the world does have a timezone, and it matters a whole
> lot. If we care about legacy data, we have to have the client knowing what
> the server defaults to... and we really care about legacy data. And various
> clinical protocols have operational ties to timezones, not just offsets
> (giving medications at the right time really does matter)
> >
> > Has anyone got any comments on this?
> >
> > I like the header described in
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sharhalakis-httptz-05 and would specify
> it for both directions, but that's not blessed by the http-wg?
> >
> > Grahame
> >
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