Re: rfc5987bis and common structure | Re: New Version Notification for draft-kamp-httpbis-structure-00.txt (fwd)

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 15 November 2016 22:05 UTC

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To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Kari Hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org>
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Subject: Re: rfc5987bis and common structure | Re: New Version Notification for draft-kamp-httpbis-structure-00.txt (fwd)
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On 2016-10-15 10:29, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> --------
> In message <201610150820.u9F8KlU6025186@shell.siilo.fmi.fi>fi>, Kari Hurtta writes
> :
>
>> Headers which may use rfc5987bis are then "uncommon structure".
>
> I think rfc5987 is a bad idea, and it is one of my motivations for
> pushing for Common Structure.
>
>> "Content-Disposition" and "Link" are not mentioned
>> on draft-kamp-httpbis-structure.
>
> No, I only surveyed RFC723x.
> ...

Content-Disposition already fits.

Link could be integrated by allowing the coded-URL production as identifier.

(And we might we want to discuss whether coded-URL should be allowed as 
value as well).

Best regards, Julian