Re: draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-01, "4.2.3 Authentication"

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 06 March 2013 14:33 UTC

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On 2013-03-06 14:52, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Unless I've missed something, the draft as it stands does not answer the
> following questions:
> ...
> Surely, HTTP2-FL can do better than this

It seems to me that all you said applies to HTTP/1.1 as well. My 
understanding was that how authentication works should be orthogonal to 
the HTTP message format, and thus whatever needs to be fixed should be 
fixed for both message formats. As such, I would expect this to be 
material for the new http-auth WG.

Best regards, Julian