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Re: [hybi] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mcmanus-httpbis-h2-websockets-01.txt

Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com> Fri, 10 November 2017 17:36 UTC

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From: Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:28:08 +0900
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To: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> +Alexey
>
> That interpretation doesn't seem consistent with RFC-6455, section 4.1
>> regarding absolute form (copied below).
>>
>> *The "Request-URI" part of the request MUST match the /resource*
>> *        name/ defined in Section 3 (a relative URI) or be an absolute*
>> *        http/https URI that, when parsed, has a /resource name/, /host/,*
>> *        and /port/ that match the corresponding ws/wss URI.*
>>
>
> That's really interesting and is the only argument I find at all
> compelling.Thanks.  Basically its saying that the URI of the GET is not the
> websockets URI used in other places such as the cache and the pac. Which is
> totally insane imo.
>

This change happened on draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-11. I see some
arguments saying that it's HTTP/HTTPS until it's upgraded, in some
discussion about DNS SRV and cookie handling, which happened before
publication of -11. But not sure which of them is really the motivation of
the change.

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