Re: Deployment of draft-ietf-httpbis-cice (Client-Initiated Content-Encoding)

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Sun, 25 June 2017 10:49 UTC

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On 2017-06-16 23:33, Wenbo Zhu wrote:
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-cice>

Actually: RFC 7694 (https://www.greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc7694.html)

> I am planning to start to advise A-E with 415 responses.

Awesome!

> Questions to the working group:
> 
> 1. Does CICE alone address the concern to support/enable request 
> compression in U-A?

That was the intent of the spec.

> 2. I suspect the success rate of non-negotiated use of (gzip) request 
> compression will be very high over Internet, esp. if the server 
> end-point is managed by the content author. Any suggestion otherwise?

We've been using gzip-encoded request bodies for ages in WebDAV - just 
not in browsers.

> 3. Any known deployment of gzip/brotli compression in browsers?

Might be of interest: 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221461> (cc: Patrick :-).

Best regards, Julian