RE: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Accept-Language) vs RFC4647), was: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language tags)
"Phillips, Addison" <addison@amazon.com> Sat, 18 July 2009 20:03 UTC
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From: "Phillips, Addison" <addison@amazon.com>
To: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:58:23 -0700
Thread-Topic: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Accept-Language) vs RFC4647), was: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language tags)
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Accept-Language) vs RFC4647), was: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language tags)
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> Julian Reschke scripsit: > > > The intention was to normatively refer to that matching algorithm > that > > actually is equivalent to what RFC2616 used to define (remember, > we're > > not changing the protocol here). Did we pick the wrong one? > > No, basic filtering is the RFC 2616 algorithm all right. You might > consider allowing HTTP servers to do lookup if basic filtering > produces no results: Apache already does this. Basic filtering is "pretty much" the 2616 algorithm--in fact, I think we went out of our way to make them compatible. But I think our understanding of language negotiation has evolved somewhat since 1999. There are a number of recommendations and statements in 2616 that suggest that both servers and client applications might tailor their matching behavior, etc. I think it would be useful and wise to allow for both sorts of behavior. Many application servers use lookup (which is the locale/resource loading protocol for Windows, Java, etc.) > > Is there some reason why you aren't referring to BCP 47? I think they are trying to be specific about their reference to avoid having <Language-Tag> change underneath them. Julian notes: > The spec does refer to BCP 47: > <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-httpbis-p3-payload-07.html#RFC4647>. Yes, but not in the same way as it refers to BCP 97. Addison Addison Phillips Globalization Architect -- Lab126 Internationalization is not a feature. It is an architecture.
- Re: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language ta… Julian Reschke
- Re: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language ta… Felix Sasaki
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Frank Ellermann
- Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 … Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Felix Sasaki
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113 Frank Ellermann
- qvalue *, was: Issue 113 Julian Reschke
- Re: qvalue *, was: Issue 113 Frank Ellermann
- Re: qvalue * ryah dahl
- Re: qvalue *, was: Issue 113 Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Julian Reschke
- Re: Issue 113 Yves Lafon
- qvalue *, was: Re: Issue 113 Frank Ellermann
- Re: qvalue *, was: Re: Issue 113 Julian Reschke
- Re: qvalue * Frank Ellermann
- Re: qvalue * Julian Reschke
- RE: qvalue * Robert Brewer
- Re: qvalue * William A. Rowe, Jr.
- Re: qvalue * Adrien de Croy
- Re: Issue 113, was: Proposed resolution for Issue… Henrik Nordstrom
- RE: qvalue * Robert Brewer
- Re: qvalue * Frank Ellermann
- Re: qvalue * Frank Ellermann
- Re: Issue 113 Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue *, was: Issue 113 Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue *, was: Re: Issue 113 Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue * Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue * Frank Ellermann
- Re: qvalue * Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue * Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue * Henrik Nordstrom
- Re: qvalue * Frank Ellermann
- Re: Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (language ta… Julian Reschke
- RE: [Ltru] Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (lang… Phillips, Addison
- Issue 113 (language tag matching (Accept-Language… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Acce… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Acce… Julian Reschke
- RE: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Acce… Phillips, Addison
- RE: Issue 113 (language tag matching (Accept-Lang… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 113 (language tag matching (Acce… Julian Reschke
- Issue 181 (Accept-Language: which RFC4647 filteri… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Ltru] Proposed resolution for Issue 13 (lang… Julian Reschke
- Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language tag matching … Julian Reschke
- RE: Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language tag match… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language ta… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language ta… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language ta… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Ltru] Issue 181, was: Issue 113 (language ta… Julian Reschke