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Re: zstd PMCE for WebSocket

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Fri, 24 April 2020 00:52 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:48:11 +1000
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Subject: Re: zstd PMCE for WebSocket
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Hi,

That sounds great, but please note that this is not the appropriate place to discuss WebSockets; that's hybi@ietf.org, or _maybe_ webtransport@.

Cheers,


> On 24 Apr 2020, at 7:49 am, W. Felix Handte <w@felixhandte.com> wrote:
> 
> Felipe and I discussed some off-list. It seems like this topic is better treated separately from the Zstd draft currently in progress, so the two of us are going to spin up a new document here:
> 
> https://github.com/felixhandte/draft-handte-httpbis-zstd-pcme
> 
> Contributions/collaborators are welcome!
> 
> - Felix
> 
> On 4/23/20 12:46 PM, Felipe Gasper wrote:
>> Hi Felix,
>> 	Great to hear! Yes, a zstd PMCE would be useful. Let me know if I can help in any way.
>> cheers,
>> -Felipe Gasper
>>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:36 PM, W. Felix Handte <w@felixhandte.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>> 
>>> You've sent this email just in time! We are wrapping up an update to the Zstandard RFC right now. So I can include a section that specifies and registers a PMCE if that would be helpful.
>>> 
>>> - Felix
>>> 
>>> On 4/22/20 12:41 PM, Felipe Gasper wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 	Has there been any motion on a standard PMCE to implement zstd compression for WebSocket?
>>>> 	Thank you!
>>>> -Felipe Gasper
>>> 
> 

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