Re: [Hubmib] AD review of draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-02.txt
John Flick <johnf@rose.hp.com> Sat, 08 March 2003 02:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Hubmib] AD review of draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-02.txt
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As you have probably already seen, I submitted an updated I-D which I believe addresses Bert's comments below. See below for more details on the changes to the doc. John "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" wrote: > > Sorry that it took so long Sorry I took almost as long. > - sect 3.2.4. > Talks about deprecated things in IANA registry > Should also show up as an action in the IANA Considerations section > (I think IANA already did this, but still better to document > it as we would normally do) I added the following IANA considerations section: 10. IANA Considerations This document does not define any new name space to be administered by IANA. However, section 3.2.4 does specify that some of the defined values in a current IANA-maintained name space are to be marked as deprecated or obsolete. In particular, the following enumerated values in the IANAifType TEXTUAL-CONVENTION in the IANAifType-MIB module need to have an ASN.1 comment added stating that they have been deprecated: - iso88032Csmacd(7) - starLan(11) In addition, the following enumerated values need to have an ASN.1 comment added stating that they are obsolete: - fastEther(62) - fastEtherFX(69) - gigabitEthernet(117) In all of the above cases, the ASN.1 comment should indicate that ethernetCsmacd(6) should be used instead of these values. > - Sect 3.2.4 > Should we recommend (also in IANA Considerations section) that IAN > tries to contact registrants of those vendor specific ifTypes > to ask them to deprecate those registrations based on recommendations > in this document? I didn't add this recommendation, since the WG consensus on deprecating those ifTypes was pretty clear. Not sure if IANA contacts registrants on a change like this anyway, but I don't think that it would change the WG consensus. > - sect 3.2.10 > the things about ifAdminStatus and ifOperStatus are actually things that > we should also express in the MODULE-COMPLIANCE statements. As a result of subsequent comments from Mike Heard, and based on the MIB Review guidelines that were recently published, I updated the DESCRIPTION of the MODULE-COMPLIANCE statement as follows: DESCRIPTION "The compliance statement for managed network entities which have ethernet-like network interfaces. Note that compliance with this MIB module requires compliance with the ifCompliance3 MODULE-COMPLIANCE statement of the IF-MIB [RFC2863]. In addition, compliance with this MIB module requires compliance with the mauModIfCompl3 MODULE-COMPLIANCE statement of the MAU-MIB [MAU-MIB]." > - sect 3.4 > Should also be listed in IANA considerations section As noted in a message from Mike Heard, IANA does not maintain the chip set OID name space, so there is nothing to add to IANA considerations here. > - REVISION clause for this version... > - probably also should list which objects/other-things got deprecated > - and from the change log in the appendix I get the impression we should > probably list a few more things REVISION clause now reads as follows: REVISION "200302280000Z" -- February 28, 2003 DESCRIPTION "Updated to include support for 10 Gb/sec interfaces. This resulted in the following revisions: - Updated dot3StatsAlignmentErrors and dot3StatsSymbolErrors DESCRIPTIONs to reflect behaviour at 10 Gb/s - Added dot3StatsRateControlAbility and dot3RateControlStatus for management of the Rate Control function in 10 Gb/s WAN applications - Added 64-bit versions of all counters that are used on high-speed ethernet interfaces - Added object groups to contain the new objects - Deprecated etherStatsBaseGroup and split into etherStatsBaseGroup2 and etherStatsHalfDuplexGroup, so that interfaces which can only operate at full-duplex do not need to implement half-duplex-only statistics - Deprecated dot3Compliance and replaced it with dot3Compliance2, which includes the compliance information for the new object groups In addition, the dot3Tests and dot3Errors object identities have been deprecated, since there is no longer a standard method for using them. This version published as RFC XXXX." -- RFC Ed.: Replace XXXX with the actual RFC number & remove -- this note > - in DESCRIPTION of dot3StatsAlignmentErrors it says: > Discontinuities in the value of this counter can > occur at re-initialization of the management > system, and at other times as indicated by the > value of ifCounterDiscontinuityTime." > we can express requirement for ifCounterDiscontinuitytime in the > MODULE-COMPLIANCE. probably much more of IF-MIB is needed and so should > or at least could be expressed in MODULE-COMPLIANCE I believe this is covered by the changes to the DESCRIPTION clause in the MODULE-COMPLIANCE shown above. > - I believe there are a number of deprecated objects that do not include > a reason why they were deprecated in the DESCRIPTION clause. I believe these are all covered now. > - for line -- dot3 8 (on page 46) you have a reference [31] which I cannot > find in the references section Updated to [RFC2666]. > - Missing IANA Considerations section > IANA wants all actions nicely together in a one section so they can > quickly see what needs to be done and so they can point people to > one place as to why they did it. See above. > - Security considerations > - might be best to list the writeable objects and hwy they are > sensitive. Added the following: There is one management object defined in this MIB that has a MAX- ACCESS clause of read-write. That object, dot3PauseAdminMode, may be used to change the flow control configuration on a network interface, which may result in dropped packets, or sending flow control packets on links where the link partner will not understand them. Either action could be detrimental to network performance. > - Are there no other read-only objects that are sensitive? > The security ADs have become more picky on these things, so might want > to review and update. Added the following: Most of the objects in this MIB module contain statistical information about particular network links. In some network environments, this information may be considered sensitive. > Nits admin stuff > - In the abstract, it is sufficient to list just the RFC that is > being obsoleted, no need to have the title too. Abstract now reads: Abstract This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in the Internet community. In particular, it defines objects for managing Ethernet-like interfaces. This memo obsoletes RFC 2665. It updates that specification by including management information useful for the management of 10 Gigabit per second (Gb/s) Ethernet interfaces. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. Please forward comments to hubmib@ietf.org. The paragraph about ongoing evolution of Ethernet was moved to the Intro, to keep the Abstract short and to the point. > - I see read-only access for various INDEX objects. I think we inherited > this from old SMIv1 MIB modules. WOuld it be good to add a comment line > that says something aka > MAX-ACCESS read-only -- read-only since originally an SMIv1 index > that makes it clear to everyone, and then mib reviewers do not have to > re-check all the time Done > - The references are not split according to the listed split we published > and agreed upon on the mibs mailing list. But maybe better wait a little, > cause the new MIB boilerplate is coming out RSN (I think/hope) Done - updated boilerplate, and updated references accordingly. > - smilint complains that > 709: warning: use Integer32 instead of INTEGER in SMIv2 > which is > dot3CollCount OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER (1..16) > I guess changing it to Integer32 would be OK since it is same base type. > But... up to editor/wg Fixed. > > Thanks, > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Hubmib mailing list > Hubmib@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hubmib _______________________________________________ Hubmib mailing list Hubmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hubmib
- [Hubmib] AD review of draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-m… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Hubmib] AD review of draft-ietf-hubmib-ether… C. M. Heard
- Re: [Hubmib] AD review of draft-ietf-hubmib-ether… John Flick