Re: [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List
Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Tue, 30 July 2019 03:53 UTC
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From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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I think Eliot's question shows that "WebTransport" may greatly benefit from a better name (or acronym). Regards, Martin. P.S.: I already subscribed to the list. On 2019/07/30 06:32, Victor Vasiliev wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > WebTransport is roughly "WebSockets, but for unreliable transport", > currently described in > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview-00 and > https://wicg.github.io/web-transport/. It's not related to BCP 190 > discussion that happened at the other portion of ARTAREA meeting. > > Cheers, > Victor. > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Hi Victor, >> >> Sorry if this has been covered, but for those of us out of the room, could >> you provide two or three sentences as to what the mailing list is supposed >> to cover? Is this more BCP 190 stuff or something more generic or just >> something else? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Eliot >> >> On 29 Jul 2019, at 22:58, Victor Vasiliev < >> vasilvv=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Judging from the in-person discussions in Montreal, there appears to be a >> decent amount of interest in the WebTransport work. Everyone interested is >> invited to join our mailing list: >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webtransport >> >> Cheers, >> Victor. >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > hybi mailing list > hybi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hybi > -- Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst Department of Intelligent Information Technology College of Science and Engineering Aoyama Gakuin University Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara 252-5258 Japan
- [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List Victor Vasiliev
- Re: [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List Eliot Lear
- Re: [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List Victor Vasiliev
- Re: [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] [dispatch] WebTransport Mailing List Mark Nottingham
- Re: [hybi] [dispatch] WebTransport Mailing List Peter Thatcher
- Re: [hybi] WebTransport Mailing List Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] [dispatch] WebTransport Mailing List Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen