Re: [hybi] name symtax, was: WebSocket sub protocol name.
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> Fri, 18 December 2009 19:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] name symtax, was: WebSocket sub protocol name.
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Pieter Hintjens wrote: > First, this breaks in any language where a null is significant in a > string. What rules are there for making this work in C? Or is that > not considered a valid language for implementors? Additional language notes: Java encodes ASCII NUL in UTF-8 with a different encoding to standard UTF-8. Therefore, Java and C-like environments do not interoperate perfectly in the presence of ASCII NUL, unless extra steps are taken - which are, of course, often ignored. Unix shells also fail when asked to handle NUL for the most part, due to their C heritage. C++ can handle NUL, up until the point you use the string with c_str(). Then it will truncate at the NUL. Many system protocols, directory services and database queries will not like being asked to look up something starting with a name containing NULs and, often because they use C style NUL-terminated strings in their APIs. The POSIX regular expression matching functions do not operate correctly on a string containing embedded NULs. Unless they are encoded with Java-UTF-8, that is. These concerns may apply to the data framing later in the protocol. When NUL is transmitted in a data frame, either as the byte 0x00, or the Java-UTF-8 encoding of ASCII NUL, you may expect some implementations to get confused about the content of a frame. However, as long as they operate on bytes at the frame boundary finding stage, boundaries are likely to be found correctly. -- Jamie
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