Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary triage
Bruce Atherton <bruce@callenish.com> Sun, 09 January 2011 21:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary triage
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On 09/01/2011 3:51 AM, Andy Green wrote: > > Bruce, you are the guy who handwaved about "known vulnerability" on > the list so it is you I replied to on the list. > I did say that this is a known vulnerability. I did not say that it is a valid vulnerability to worry about. Whether it is or it isn't, I don't know and I don't care because what I think doesn't matter in this instance. I see a lot of people get frustrated on this list because they think that the point of the discussion is to present the best technical argument. It isn't. The point is to persuade other people about the best technical argument. And the people who ship web browsers have all said that they are not persuaded by the types of arguments you have presented. Andy, I can understand your frustration, but it isn't helping anything. The decision has been made via the straw poll to use masking in the protocol. Let's put this to rest now, please.
- [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- [hybi] Reminder: Straw Poll on GET+Upgrade+Maskin… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Adam Barth
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Adam Barth
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / building in trol… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Cedric Vivier
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Pat McManus @Mozilla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Cedric Vivier
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Pat McManus @Mozilla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Cedric Vivier
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [hybi] Using extensions for masking (was: A bit o… Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Andy Green
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Bruce Atherton
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism / intermediary tri… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Adam Barth
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] A bit of pragmatism Willy Tarreau