Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT
Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> Tue, 07 December 2010 00:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT
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* John Tamplin wrote: >First, I am not sure that the CONNECT method is well-enough specified >that anything could be considered changing it. RFC2616 only has this >to say: > >> 9.9 CONNECT >> >> This specification reserves the method name CONNECT for use with a proxy that can >> dynamically switch to being a tunnel (e.g. SSL tunneling [44]). > >It doesn't even talk at all about what is acceptable in the request >line, headers, responses, etc. The only draft which ever made any >attempt to specify it (as far as I am aware) - >http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-luotonen-web-proxy-tunneling-01.txt - >expired in 1999 (!), so it seems to be stretching the facts to call >that an active spec. RFC 2616 is updated by the proposed standard RFC 2817 which defines the method (imperfectly, but nevertheless). If the draft you mention was the only specification for it, that would be all the more reason to be very sceptical about relying on this method for assumed security properties. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Adam Barth
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Brian
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Pat McManus @Mozilla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Zhong Yu
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Henrik Frystyk Nielsen
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Different server semantics of CONNECT Greg Wilkins