Re: [hybi] HyBi WG and Web Sockets support

Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> Wed, 21 October 2009 01:50 UTC

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On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:

> Since probably nobody from Opera can attend the meeting in Hiroshima  
> Salvatore asked me to outline our thoughts on the list. To keep it  
> brief: Opera supports the creation of a HyBi WG and basing the work  
> on the Web Sockets protocol.
>
> I personally think we should make the use case the Web Sockets  
> protocol currently supports not more complex by introducing  
> additional features, but instead add those features, based on  
> demonstrated need, as extensions by e.g. using different framing  
> bytes.

Apple also supports the creation of a HyBi WG and basing the work on  
the Web Sockets protocol. We will likely not have any attendees at the  
Hiroshima IETF.

Some specific thoughts on technical matters:

- We have a WebSocket implementation in progress in WebKit.
- We think the WebSocket protocol draft is a good starting point and  
covers most of the important use cases.
- We think it's plausible that some additional features (such as  
multiplexing) may be valuable, and do not oppose extending the  
WebSocket protocol beyond what is currently proposed.
- We are eager to participate in a potential WG, and expect to give  
detailed feedback.

Regards,
Maciej