Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 21 June 2011 22:02 UTC
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Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >On 6/21/11 6:30 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > >>On Fri Jun 17 21:07:22 2011, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Peter Saint-Andre >>><stpeter@stpeter.im>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Section 11.12 says that assignment of WebSocket Version Numbers shall be >>>> >>>> >>>>"RFC Required", but then requests assignment of version numbers 0-8 to >>>>prior submissions of this Internet-Draft. The requested assignments are >>>>at odds with the stated policy. >>>> >>>> >>>RFC Required is different from Standards Action. RFC Publication >>>(either as >>>an IETF submission or as an RFC editor independent submission) suffices. >>>Standards Action requires Standards Track RFCs approved by the IESG. My >>>understanding from this as that an I-D counts as an IETF submission? >>> >>> >>Yes, but it only counts as an RFC once it's published... >> >>The solution is to assign these to this document, but note in this >>section that versions 1-8 are older versions. >> >>One might even ask IANA to maintain a note saying that, when creating >>the registry. >> >>That all said, it's not clear to me this really needs a registry, or why >>one might want to allow independant stream RFCs to define a new version >>number - that effectively means that the next version of WebSockets >>might not be an IETF protocol at all. In contrast with the other >>registries - which seem reasonable - allowing random people to invent >>new and conflicting versions seems like a recipe for chaos. >> >>I'd have thought that we want standards-track here, and in any case, the >>version numbers would be handled by Obsoletes/Updates perfectly well. >> >> > >Seems reasonable, yes. > I tend to agree with the "cause chaos" argument, so Standards Track RFC or IETF Consensus (i.e. any RFC in the IETF Stream) is Ok. I would still prefer to have a registry, as some people (especially people not doing IETF standards for long time) are not as skilled as others in navigating chains of references. But I don't feel strongly enough about this. My 2p.
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] -09: IANA considerations Alexey Melnikov