Re: [hybi] The Web Application Messaging Protocol => Draft RFC

Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com> Mon, 28 September 2015 02:35 UTC

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From: Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:34:50 +0900
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Subject: Re: [hybi] The Web Application Messaging Protocol => Draft RFC
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Once the I-D gets adopted (e.g.
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg09816.html) as an
IETF WG item, it'll be renamed to draft-ietf-hybi-tavendo-wamp-XX.txt.
Then, it goes through discussion/editing again, and then the chairs sends
it to IESG, i.e. AD, Barry.

See the history of permessage-deflate, http2 for example at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hybi-permessage-compression/history/
and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7540/history/

Takeshi

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Tobias Oberstein <
> tobias.oberstein@tavendo.de> wrote:
>
>> We've rewritten the WAMP spec (basic profile) into a RFC draft:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/tavendo/WAMP/blob/master/rfc/draft-oberstet-hybi-tavendo-wamp-01.txt
>>
>> This is the first RFC style document we've written (well, Alex did the
>> rewriting;). We've tried hard to follow all formal rules and started to
>> reword the text so it better fits "RFC style".
>>
>> The the draft likely has more formal issues, but we now have a concrete
>> proposal text to discuss and work from on the content matter.
>>
>> Currently the draft is on GitHub, but I guess there is a process to get
>> each of the draft versions published.
>>
>> How does the process of publishing RFC draft work?
>>
>>
> General instructions here: https://www.ietf.org/id-info/
>
> See the NOTE WELL again at https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/note-well/
>
> Use https://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ to see nits in your I-D.
>
> Then, submit at https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/ (or just submit w/o
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>
>
>> Anything else to do?
>>
>> /Tobias
>>
>>
>> Am 17.09.2015 um 17:14 schrieb Tobias Oberstein:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the "Web Application Messaging Protocol" (WAMP) is a _WebSocket
>>> subprotocol_ that provides two application messaging patterns in one
>>> unified protocol:
>>>
>>> - Remote Procedure Calls
>>> - Publish & Subscribe
>>>
>>> There is an open specification, multiple independent implementations and
>>> a growing user community. The protocol has seen takeup in particular
>>> with IoT applications.
>>>
>>> Project site:   http://wamp.ws/
>>> Specification:  https://github.com/tavendo/WAMP/tree/master/spec
>>> Mailing list:   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wampws
>>> Chat room:      https://gitter.im/tavendo/WAMP
>>>
>>> While we do have a spec, having a proper RFC for WAMP would be a further
>>> step forward.
>>>
>>> Working on a RFC and producing a high-quality document is a lot of work
>>> and requires significant commitment by multiple parties, since
>>> otherwise, sufficient peer review and feedback isn't guaranteed.
>>>
>>> While a lot of contributors have been working over the last +3 years on
>>> WAMP, we need commitment to work on the _actual RFC_.
>>>
>>> So if you do have interest in seeing a WAMP RFC, your input and feedback
>>> is welcome! Please reply ..
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> /Tobias
>>>
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