Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-01
Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com> Fri, 21 October 2016 16:24 UTC
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From: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-01
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Paul, Can your team look at the attached i2NSF framework draft and suggest text to merge in? Thanks, Linda From: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong [mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:55 PM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com> Cc: Prof. Hyoungshick Kim <hyoung@skku.edu>; Pauljeong@skku.edu; i2nsf@ietf.org; skku_secu-brain_all@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-01 Hi Linda, Are you agreeing at merging our draft (draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-02) into draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework-03? Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com<mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Linda, As a coauthor of this draft, I will answer your questions inline below. On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com>> wrote: Hyoungshick, et al, How would you position your draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-01 with regard to the I2NSF framework draft? I find there are a lot of duplicated content to the I2nsf framework draft. [Paul] We would like to merge our draft into the i2nsf framework draft because our draft has one depth more detailed architecture. This detailed architecture will be helpful to implement the i2nsf framework. There are some differences, such as the following: Are you trying to define how “security policy” is structured? [cid:image001.png@01D22B8D.9F9438C0] [Paul] Our architecture allows an NSF to update a low-level policy and apply it to the related high-level policy via the control path of Security Controller and Policy Collector (renamed Event Collector in version 02) in Figure 1 of our version 02: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kim-i2nsf-security-management-architecture-02 For example, if an NSF of firewall detects a new DoS-attack host, it reports the updated blacklist having the IP address of such a host to Application Logic in I2NSF Client via Security Controller and Event Collector. Application Logic asks Policy Updater to disseminate the updated blacklist to the security controllers under the administration of the same I2NSF Client. Will the “High Level security management” eventually lead to Client Facing Policy data models? [Paul] Yes, as explained above, the High-level security management leads to update and handle Client facing policy data models. Do you plan to define interfaces between all those components depicted in Figure 1? The interfaces between some of those components are not really in the I2NSF WG current charter, such as “Security Policy Manager” <-> “NSF Capability Manager”, or the interface between “Application Logic” <-> “Policy Updater”. [Paul] Yes, we have a plan to define such interfaces. Are those components in your current implementation? Is it like an “example of one implementation”? [Paul] Though those components are not fully implemented yet in our implementation, my team at SKKU will make implement those components in a later version. Thanks for your clarification questions. Best Regards, Paul Thanks, Linda _______________________________________________ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org<mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com<mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, pauljeong@skku.edu<mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php<http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com<mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, pauljeong@skku.edu<mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php<http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
- [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-security-… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [I2nsf] questions about draft-kim-i2nsf-secur… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong