Re: [I2nsf] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-applicability-16: (with DISCUSS)

["Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[e-mail]>]

Alvaro,
I submitted a new version having the data model drafts as Normative
references:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-applicability-17

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:06 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Alvaro,
> I am the editor of the I2NSF Applicability draft.
> Let me answer your comments inline below.
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:46 PM Alvaro Retana via Datatracker <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-i2nsf-applicability-16: Discuss
>>
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>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-applicability/
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>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> DISCUSS:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This document does provide a little more detailed view (than rfc8329) of
>> the
>> I2NSF Framework in that it does reference the models that make it up.
>> However,
>> these references are all Informative.  I am Balloting DISCUSS because if
>> the
>> intent is to explain how the models apply to the scenarios, then their
>> references should be Normative.  I think this is an easy point to address.
>>
>  => I will let the references be Normative in the next revision of our
> draft.
>
>>
>> Regardless of the type of reference, I agree with others in the fact that
>> this
>> document presents use cases.  While there is a deliverable in the WG
>> Charter
>> related to use cases, I think that was satisfied by rfc8192 (Interface to
>> Network Security Functions (I2NSF): Problem Statement and Use Cases).  My
>> understanding of the Charter is similar to Mirja's from the "Data Models
>> and
>> Applicability Statements" milestone.
>>
>>  => This I2NSF Applicability draft enhances the use cases of I2NSF with
>        the real implementation experience through 9 IETF Hackathons for
> the last three years.
>        This draft describes how the I2NSF data models can be used for
> cloud-based security services,
>        such as firewall, web filter, deep packet inspection, and DDoS
> attack mitigation, along with
>        the SFC, SDN, and NFV at the aspect of the applicability of I2NSF
> to the real world.
>        On the other hand, RFC 8192 just gives the audience high-level
> concepts for I2NSF use cases rather than
>        the detailed use cases and applicability of I2NSF for real
> applications.
>        I believe that this I2NSF applicability draft will be useful for
> the developers and operators
>        to implement and operate the I2NSF system, so the publication of
> this draft to an RFC will
>        be required.
>
> In order for this document to be an Applicability Statement, I believe that
>> significant work is needed.  This point is not part of my DISCUSS, so I
>> will
>> most likely end up ABSTAINing if the document remains in its current form.
>>
>>  => If you give me more detailed comments on how to improve this draft,
>       I will work for the improvement of this draft with the co-authors of
> this draft.
>
>       Thanks.
>
>       Best Regards,
>       Paul
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> Sungkyunkwan University
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: [phone]
Email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
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