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Re: [I2nsf] Next Steps of I2NSF

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Thu, 20 July 2023 13:40 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Next Steps of I2NSF
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Hi Paul!

> Could I submit them as independent submissions to the IETF

Yes, you can absolutely try to request publication from the Independent Stream Editor (ISE) that is outside of the IETF stream.

> with the sponsor of Roman or somebody else?
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/

With no judgement on their technical contribution, I will not AD sponsor these documents.  They represent a substantial amount of work across multiple documents that will require feedback, iteration and review.  This is not ideal for AD-sponsorship under the best of circumstances – it is just too big of a body of integrated work which has not seen substantial IETF discussion or a significant community signal of need.  The other hesitation to sponsor is my ability to generate the needed interest from community review.  Having just closed a WG on this same topic, it was extremely challenging to muster the needed energy for reviews in chartered items.

> … or somebody else?
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/

Other ADs might feel differently.  There is also the SecDispatch WG process.

Regards,
Roman


From: I2nsf <i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 4:30 AM
To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; Patrick Lingga <patricklink888@gmail.com>; Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>; DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>; JungSoo Park <pjs@etri.re.kr>; Yunchul Choi <cyc79@etri.re.kr>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
Subject: [I2nsf] Next Steps of I2NSF

Hi Roman, Linda, and Yoav,
To complement our I2NSF as a closed-loop security control,
the following three individual drafts are important:

- Security Management Automation of Cloud-Based Security Services in I2NSF Framework
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-i2nsf-security-management-automation/

- I2NSF Analytics Interface YANG Data Model
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lingga-i2nsf-analytics-interface-dm/

- Guidelines for Security Policy Translation in Interface to Network Security Functions
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yang-i2nsf-security-policy-translation/

We have proved the concept of this closed-loop security control of the I2NSF system
through the IETF hackathon projects.

Could I submit them as independent submissions to the IETF
with the sponsor of Roman or somebody else?
https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/

I CC the co-authors of these drafts along with I2NSF WG.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul
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