Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-15.txt (8/2 to 8/15)
Joe Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com> Tue, 02 August 2016 16:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-15.txt (8/2 to 8/15)
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On 8/2/16 09:18, Susan Hares wrote: > This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-i2rs-ephemeral-state-15.txt. This > draft received a “hum” of consensus at IETF 96, and we are now taking > the final text to a WG Last Call. Please send your comments on the > requirements to the WG list. I think this is good. A general comment I have is that "ephemeral state" is used in a number of places where I think "ephemeral configuration" should be used. This may be a nit, but the device has one state that is dictated by the various configuration types and the operational state. This was raised in BA in the meetings as well. My recommendation is to replace "ephemeral state" with "ephemeral configuration". It's not a show-stopper the way it is, but I think the latter is a bit clearer. One nit I notice is a mixed use of Client/client Agent/agent. Per the last round of RFCs, we are normalizing on client and agent (lowercase). Section 7, bullet 2: This text reads strangely: OLD TEXT: The I2RS protocol MUST support the ability to have data nodes MAY store I2RS client identity and not the effective priority of the I2RS client at the time the data node is stored. PROPOSED NEW TEXT: The I2RS protocol MUST support the ability to have data nodes store I2RS client identity and not the effective priority of the I2RS client at the time the data node is stored. Section 8: I2RS is written "I2SR" Section 8: This text is odd OLD TEXT: multiple operations in one or more messages handling can handle errors within the set of operations in many ways. I'm stumped. This doesn't read as a requirement per se. Yes, the I2RS protocol can support multiple operations within one message or multiple messages. Based on the fact that atomicity is not provided, an error in one message will have no effect on other messages, even if they are related. So maybe: PROPOSED NEW TEXT: multiple operations in one or more messages; though errors in one message or operation will have no effect on other messages or commands even if they are related Section 9: OLD TEXT: requirements SHOULD be understood to be expanded to to include NEW TEXT: requirements SHOULD be understood to be expanded to include Joe
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Russ White
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Linda Dunbar
- [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-15.t… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ephemeral-state-… Susan Hares