Re: IAFA templates: a user's comment

Thomas Krichel <> Fri, 24 March 1995 08:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAFA templates: a user's comment
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  Martijn Koster writes:

> | If there are multiple authors or editors, they should
> | all be separated by the word and.
> This should of course be generalised tot names other than
> author/editor, but means you donot need to repeat a Author field for
> multiple authors, or duplicate values accross variants of a document.

  Problems with this strategy have been pointed out by Jon and ToK in
  recent messages.

> The variant part of the IAFA templates are a quick fix for a small
> domain of problems surrounding manifestations of a
> document. Personally I'd like to see it removed altogether, but it'll
> have to stay in for backward compatibility.

  Can you give us an idea what the replacement will look like and maybe
  a date at which we may expect another version.

> I don't think it's appropriate for the IAFA templates to attempt to
> solve all the issues, especially when it impacts the templates main
> selling point, simplicity.

  I would warn against making the templates to simple. The emphasis
  should be on giving a good description, and have some people watch
  that the info provided  does not contain too many mistakes. That
  would be the point of an intermediary like WoPEc.

> I tend to think of a resource as a "something on the internet", that I
> can point to. The variants came in to fix the case where two resources
> are the same intellectual content. Describing parts however, splits
> the resource up, I can no longer point to it, the parts don't have the
> same intellectual content. So the parts are resources themselves.  If
> they're not meant to be, becuase they're part of say one document,
> then this document should be made available as a resource
> (tar/zip/stuffit whatever).

  Yes, I agree with that, but in practice it is a problem because
  there are a number of different archivers arround and because some
  publlishers do not compress/archive their resource. They do not care
  to do that. Emailing them is useless, they do not reply. 

  Let me add: If the templates are made to describe a single file, then
  this should be said so in the doc. IMHO this would be quite a severe

> We need to draw a line somewhere; otherwise we'll be talking about
> URL-v0-p1-e2-l3 to describe a gzipped copy on a european machine of
> part 1 of an english variant of a document, etc. We cannot solve all
> problems in one. I'm very, very wary of making it more complex than it
> is at the moment.

  I very much agree with this. Have a good day!


  Thomas Krichel