Re: [Ianaplan] Reminder: Virtual Interim on Monday

Jefsey <jefsey@jefsey.com> Sat, 04 October 2014 06:58 UTC

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At 20:28 03/10/2014, Leslie Daigle (TCE) wrote:
>Hi,
>As a reminder, we have our Virtual Interim meeting scheduled for 
>Monday.  Marc's message with the webex information is attached to this message.
>As noted[1], we have one main agenda item -- the working group's 
>main deliverable.
>
>In order to respect the timeline of the Working Group and deliver an 
>IETF response by the January 15, 2015 deadline, it is our 
>expectation the group will choose to adopt 
>draft-lear-iana-icg-response as a working group document, next 
>week.  Discussion during the virtual interim meeting will focus on 
>reviewing that document, discussing issues raised to date, and using 
>the high bandwidth opportunity to propose resolutions to them.

Hi! Leslie,

I am sorry, but my various efforts in order to avoid an appeal 
against the charter's status-quo spirit and letter did not succeed so 
far. I think that the current draft definitly follows the Charter and 
as such puts the IETF technology in practical/operational jeopardy; 
if I only judge by the various innovative network achitectonic 
development tracks several have now engaged. Definitly those who 
wrote the charter did not consider the RFC 6852 was uncomplete but true.

I will therefore appeal the IESG concerning the charter by the end of 
next week (to give a chance to the VIM report made on the list to 
help avoiding a political and  technological dead lock in the coming 
months). Since the issue concerns an IETF possible fork between RFC 
3539 rough consensus with appeal, RFC 6852 multistakeholder broad 
consensus with comments, and IUse oriented stakeholders, I will 
probably have to pursue such an appeal upto ISOC, press and ITU.

This is for you to take this into consideration for the January 15, 
2015 deadline with a possible 60 days delay between each appeal on an 
matter of importance calling for groups thinking and comments.

jfc


>As always, any proposed decisions made during the meeting will be 
>reconfirmed on the mailing list.
>
>Nonetheless, with a view to the timeline, we recognize that we need 
>to get the working group document pretty much in shape and taken 
>care of _before_ the Honolulu meeting, so that remaining issues can 
>be worked on at IETF 91 and finalized shortly thereafter.
>
>It's a lot of work and a short timeline!  The sooner we can finish 
>surfacing issues and get them addressed, the better.
>
>Looking forward to a constructive session on Monday.
>
>Leslie.
>
>[1]  From the announcement of the working group virtual interim meeting:
>>The IANAPLAN WG will hold a 2 hour interim virtual meeting October
>>6th, 10h00am Eastern. The main agenda item is the first deliverable
>>of the working group, where an individual draft will be discussed and
>>reviewed to be adopted by the working group.
>
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>Hello,
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>Regards, Marc.
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