Re: [Ianaplan] Minor nit draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 regarding "the Internet DNS"

John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org> Mon, 03 November 2014 18:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Minor nit draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 regarding "the Internet DNS"
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On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:09:39PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
>> There is, however, some probably that the proposal received by NTIA for 
>> the transition of the stewardship of the IANA functions will be read by many 
>> not on the IANAplan list, and the text matters to the extent that any of their
>> perceptions are important.
> 
> Do you have text to propose?  I don't actually understand what you want here.

I don't have any particular desired text; only noting the the present I-D
answer may not be fully addressing the RFP question and thus shortchanging 
the IETF.  One example of more responsive text would be:

" >>> "Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the
  >>>  Internet DNS;"

 The protocol parameters registries are a component of the Internet's 
 domain name and addressing system (DNS).  The security, stability, and 
 resiliency of these protocol parameters registries has been very well 
 provided by the existing oversight arrangements that are more fully 
 documented in Section II.

 The success of the existing oversight is evidenced by the satisfactory 
 performance level of the ICANN (the current IANA functions operator) 
 in accordance with the agreed service level agreement metrics.[METRICS]  

 The IETF believes maintaining the present oversight and accountability
 arrangements (with the minor enhancements as outlined in Section III) 
 provides the best opportunity for maintain the security, stability, and
 resiliency of these registries. 
"

I do not know if such a response would be desired (or whether it even
accurately reflects the consensus view of the IETF community) but supply 
it to elucidate the challenge I see with the present text.

/John

Disclaimer: my views alone.