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Re: [Iasa20] Am I missing something?

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> Thu, 11 October 2018 14:41 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "iasa20@ietf.org" <iasa20@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Iasa20] Am I missing something?
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Am I missing something?
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Good feedback and you raise an interesting point. Let me ponder it and confer with some folks to see how we should proceed. 

Thanks
Jason

On 10/10/18, 8:56 PM, "iasa20 on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <iasa20-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi,
    
    While quickly reviewing draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6220bis-01,
    I noticed that it cites RFC4371 (part of BCP101), because
    it needs a general reference for the IETF Trust.
    
    Then I noticed that we do have a formal update to BCP101 planned
    with respect to the Trust**, we don't seem to have a document planned
    that normatively updates BCP101 by abolishing the IAOC (and incidentally
    obsoleting RFC7691). draft-ietf-iasa2-struct can't do that since it's
    intentionally Informational.
    
    It seems to me that we need a short BCP that formally updates RFC4071
    and obsoletes RFC7691. Its content would need to delete all the normative
    specifics about the IAOC from 4071, possibly normatively replace
    the term "IAD" by "IETF Executive Director", and refer informatively
    to draft-ietf-iasa2-struct.
    
    (The alternative would be a full-blown RFC4071bis, but I doubt if anyone
    has the copious free time necessary for that.)
    
    ** draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update updates 4071,4371 (if approved)
    
    Or am I missing something else?
     
    Regards
       Brian
    
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