Re: [Iasa20] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2031bis-05: (with COMMENT)

"Livingood, Jason" <> Thu, 22 August 2019 20:07 UTC

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Thanks and these changes will be made in the -06 shortly.

In response to your question on funding support, ISOC has only agreed to provide funding of a specific dollar figure through FY2020, after which a joint re-assessment will be conducted on future. I'll try to generalize the text. I don't think anyone expects that funding to go away in the foreseeable future of course.


On 8/20/19, 3:06 PM, "Roman Danyliw via Datatracker" <> wrote:

    Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
    draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2031bis-05: No Objection
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    ** Section 3 makes the absolute statement that “the IETF and ISOC acknowledge
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    standards”.  Section 4 reminds us that “ISOC maintain[ing] liaison
    relationships … with other … SDOs”.  Stretching a bit, given the reliance of
    the IETF on these key SDO relationships, the ability to or timeliness in
    forming/keeping these relationships could conceivably indirectly influence
    technical standards.  IMO, s/ISOC has no influence/ISOC has no direct
    Derived from Hilarie Orman’s SECDIR review:
    ** Section 7.  Per “Under the terms of the Operating Agreement [OpAgreement]
    between ISOC and the IETF, ISOC has agreed to provide some funding support for
    the IETF (ISOC has historically provided the IETF with significant financial
    support)”, what is the difference between “some funding” and “significant
    funding support”?
    ** References.  Explicitly point to for [OpAgreement]