Re: [Iasa20] Comments on <draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-00>

[Bob Hinden <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Brian Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Regards
>  Bob,
> 
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 15:58 Bob Hinden <[e-mail] wrote:
> Brian,
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> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > On 2018-12-14 13:34, Bob Hinden wrote:
> > ...
> >>>   This document obsoletes [RFC4071], which specified the original IASA,
> >>>   [RFC4333], which specified the selection guidelines and process for
> >>>   IAOC members and [RFC7691], which specified terms for IAOC members.
> >>
> >> Does this doucment also update BCP101?   I think so, if it does, it should be
> >> mentioned here.
> >
> > That's automatic. This is a BCP that obsoletes RFC4071, which is the base
> > document of BCP101.
> 
> But shouldn’t we be redefining BCP101 to point the the RFC that <draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis-00> will become?
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> I'm sure the RFC Editor does that automatically.

Not sure, but I think it would better to say it explicitly here.


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> > ...
> >>>   o  Unification: The IETF LLC is reponsible for providing unified
> >>>      legal, financial, and administrative support for operation of the
> >>>      IETF, IAB, IESG, IRTF, and RFC Editor.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think it is correct that the IETF Trust is not included here.  Might be good to call that out.  That said, where does the IETF Trust get it’s funding?
> >
> > I think that for this document, it's simply part of the IETF. No need
> > to mention it separately.
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> Is it part of the IETF?  I thought the IETF Trust was a separate legal entity (otherwise it couldn’t hold IPR) and had it’s own bank account.  Seems separate to me.
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> Yes, of course, but "the IETF" is a pretty vague concept so it seems like a detail here, given that we have a dedicated draft for the Trust anyway.

Yes, “the IETF” is still a vague concept :-)

However, as I note below, we should know how the Trust is funded.

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> Also, how is the IETF Trust funded in the IASA 2.0 model?
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> I've been assuming via the LLC.

Can someone answer the question who knows and/or point to a document that says it?   If it’s the LLC, then I think this document should say it.

Thanks,
Bob


> 
> Regards
>     Brian
>     (via tiny screen & keyboard)
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> >
> > For the 3rd time: this is yet another reason why we need to bring trust-update back to the WG to make it consistent with rfc4071bis.
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> I agree.
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> Bob
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