Re: [Iasa20] first draft: IASA 2.0 Virtual Workshops Report

Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Mon, 13 March 2017 12:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] first draft: IASA 2.0 Virtual Workshops Report
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Thanks Joe, this is a useful write-up and seems pretty accurate from the workshop I attended. One comment below:

> On 10 Mar 2017, at 21:12, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote:
> 
> <draft-hall-iasa20-workshops-report.txt>

"and ISOC Fellows and Policy Fellows - which are
 ISOC-funded and controlled programs that encourage technical ISOC
 members and policy experts from developing economies to interact with
 the IETF - that should not show up in an IETF budget.”

I think you need to reword this to make clear that the ISOC Fellows are "technologists from emerging and developing economies” whereas the Policy Guests are policy experts from all over the globe (including developed economies).

Thanks,
Mat