Re: [iccrg] The NorNet Research Testbed for Multi-Homed Systems

Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> Mon, 06 May 2013 19:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [iccrg] The NorNet Research Testbed for Multi-Homed Systems
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On May 6, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 6, 2013 2:45 PM, "Michael Welzl" <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> >
> > I guess he means the RITE project:
> > http://riteproject.eu
> 
> Yes. They have a budget at least 4m euro larger than bufferbloat.net's, there's a team of academics and researchers like Bob Briscoe on the case, and they have a lovely website and have held meetings all over the place.

Not to mention the *true* celebrities like mice elf! Heck, even Justin Bieber wanted to join us, his argument being that he managed to influence Internet latency on several occasions, but we had to tell him to go away.


> I don't know a lot about what they are up to but I expect great results any day now. After it starts working out, their testbeds go up , and the papers and research turn into code, I hope to be able to shut down things like the cerowrt effort and just sit back and watch the internet get faster, boat drink in hand.

We have this plan to remove all the queues of the world, and packets too. We'll turn the Internet to a POTS-style network, which really had so much less latency!
AQM becomes pointless, because: what to control, when there are no more queues, let alone packets? It'll be fabulous, just wait   :-D

Cheers,
Michael

PS: it's a "normal" research project - most of us keep on doing what we were planning to do anyway, but together, and hopefully some good stuff will come from that, but most of us don't have world domination plans just yet  :-)     plus, give us some time please   :-)

PPS: some examples of work funded by RITE, even though not all current drafts say it (yet):
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fairhurst-tcpm-newcwv-05.txt
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rtorestart-00
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-welzl-rmcat-coupled-cc-00
…and much more stuff will appear at http://riteproject.eu
As this work shows, our focus *is* on reducing latency, but this is not *only* AQM (although it's definitely a part of what we look at).