[Iccrg] Fwd: [R-C] New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00.txt

lars@netapp.com (Eggert, Lars) Mon, 05 March 2012 08:09 UTC

From: lars@netapp.com
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:09:13 +0000
Subject: [Iccrg] Fwd: [R-C] New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00.txt
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FYI. I believe this draft is of interest.

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> From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
> Subject: [R-C] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00.txt
> Date: March 4, 2012 15:20:20 GMT+01:00
> To: "rtp-congestion@alvestrand.no" <rtp-congestion@alvestrand.no>
> 
> And ... it's out!
> Thanks for the quick feedback during the weekend!
> 
>               Harald
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	New Version Notification for draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00.txt
> Date: 	Sun, 04 Mar 2012 06:19:29 -0800
> From: 	internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: 	harald@alvestrand.no
> CC: 	randell-ietf@jesup.org
> 
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Harald Alvestrand and posted to the IETF repository.
> 
> Filename:	 draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs
> Revision:	 00
> Title:		 Congestion Control Requirements For Real Time Media
> Creation date:	 2012-03-04
> WG ID:		 Individual Submission
> Number of pages: 7
> 
> Abstract:
>   Congestion control is needed for all data transported across the
>   Internet, in order to promote fair usage and prevent congestion
>   collapse.  The requirements for interactive, point-to-point real time
>   multimedia, which needs by low-delay, semi-reliable data delivery,
>   are different from the requirements for bulk transfer like FTP or
>   bursty transfers like Web pages, and the TCP algorithms are not
>   suitable for this traffic.
> 
>   This document attempts to describe a set of requirements that can be
>   used to evaluate other congestion control mechanisms in order to
>   figure out their fitness for this purpose.
> 
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>From michawe@ifi.uio.no  Wed Mar  7 15:10:23 2012
From: michawe@ifi.uio.no (Michael Welzl)
Date: Wed Mar  7 15:07:43 2012
Subject: [Iccrg] Preliminary agenda for ICCRG meeting @ IETF 83
Message-ID: <4F577A5F.40506@ifi.uio.no>

Ladies and gentlemen,

Let me present to you the preliminary agenda for the ICCRG meeting at 
the upcoming Paris IETF, which is scheduled on Tuesday afternoon, in the 
15:20-17:00 and 17:10-18:10 time slots. The second time slot is 
dedicated to congestion control for RTP-carried real-time media; this is 
an effort that comes out of rtcweb, with its own mailing list, see: 
http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/rtp-congestion
The group is considering formation of a new WG, and that's why there is 
an item called "a possible WG charter" in the agenda - however, note 
that this meeting is not meant as a surrogate for a BoF (which is 
clearly not what a RG could or should "host"), so this will be just 
informational, not a time slot for wordsmithing. Content-wise, 
congestion control for RTP seems to be clearly in scope of ICCRG, and so 
I expect this to be an interesting session for all of us.


Time slot 1, 15:20-17:00

* Agenda bashing and update - Michael Welzl (5 min)

* Congestion Control and Notification over Longer Time Scales and at 
Higher Layers - Dave McDysan (20 min)
   draft-mcdysan-iccrg-usecases-00

* On the Fairness of Transport Protocols in a Multi-Path Environment - 
Hakim Adhari (15 min)
   (based on an upcoming ICC 2012 paper)

* Caching with TCP - Pasi Sarolahti (15 min)

* End-to-End Transmission Control through Inference about the Network - 
Keith Winstein (30 min)
   (based on: 
http://conferences.sigcomm.org/hotnets/2011/papers/hotnetsX-final100.pdf)


Time slot 2, 17:10-18:10

Topic chair: Harald Alvestrand

     * Introduction: The RTCWEB effort, and the traffic we expect to 
generate - Harald (10 min)
           o Doc: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-02
           o Doc: draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00
     * Nice behaviour for RTP-based services - Varun Singh, Colin 
Perkins (10 min)
           o Doc: draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00
     * A delay based congestion control candidate - Stefan Holmer (15 min)
           o Doc: draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-congetstion-01
     * Feedback mechanisms that might be useful - Harald Alvestrand (5 min)
           o Doc: draft-alvestrand-rmcat-remb-00
     * A possible WG charter: RMCAT (15 min)
           o Doc: http://www.ietf.org/iesg/evaluation/rmcat-charter.txt
     * Summary, conclusions, next steps (5 min)


The times in slot 1 are based on what the presenters requested, but I'd 
think that not everyone has planned for the normal (long) duration of 
discussions at IETF meetings, and so it's nice to have some headroom. 
This being said, I think we can still squeeze a presentation in there if 
need be.


Cheers,
Michael