Re: [icnrg] ICN applied to the IoT

["Rahman, Akbar" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Aisling,


We have been looking at the possible ICN migration paths in

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rahman-icnrg-deployment-guidelines-03

I think many of the questions that you asked are addressed there.  Any feedback on the list would be much appreciated as the draft as slated for WG adoption after getting some more review feedback.


/Akbar



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-----Original Message-----
From: icnrg [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Aisling O' Driscoll
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:15 AM
To: 'Anders Lindgren' <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [icnrg] ICN applied to the IoT

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies so far – I look forward to meeting you and am knee deep reading papers :) The below is most certainly included.

A high level question for you (hopefully not unintentionally contentious)…

There seems to be a school of thought that adoption of ICN (whatever architecture that may be) may never come about because of the amount of effort and money already invested in TCP/IP. A more optimistic view is that the deployment will most likely being a hybrid ICN over IP with a slow phase out over 20-30 years.

Extending this to the IoT, I would foresee that a hybrid stack isn’t feasible as the goal is to lighten the stack not increase its complexity which may not be feasible for resource constrained devices. So does sufficient quantitative evidence exist to provide a very strong and compelling motivation for why IoT should transition from the CoAP/UDP/RPL/IPv6/6LoWPAN/802.15.4 stack to an ICN approach in terms of network performance benefits or is the argument that IoT is still relatively in its infancy and thus a clean slate approach is still feasible given that ICN is naturally a better fit without providing a strong migration argument? I do note that some quantitative evaluation was conducted in a sub-section in a paper “ICN in the IoT: Experiments with NDN in the Wild” (really interesting paper).

It seems like there is significantly further work to be done to provide quantitative motivation. Is this a fair observation? I’d be interested to hear your opinions.

Best,
Aisling

-----Original Message-----
From: Anders Lindgren [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday 12 September 2017 12:38
To: Aisling O' Driscoll
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [icnrg] ICN applied to the IoT

Hi Aisling,

Please consider having a look at our internet draft "Design Considerations for Applying ICN to IoT” https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-01.html that is currently being worked on by several people in the research group.
We would appreciate any comments and feedback you have on the document.

Best regards,

/Anders


> 12 sep. 2017 kl. 13:21 skrev Aisling O' Driscoll <[e-mail]>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m new to the mailing list so greetings!
>
> I’m attending the ACM ICN conference in 2 weeks so looking forward to meeting many of you there.
>
> I recently joined the academic staff in the Department to Computer Science in University College Cork (Ireland) and am interested in investigating ICN, particularly its application within the IoT. My background is in network communication protocols, specifically geo-routing and location service protocol design for ad-hoc networks.
>
> This is an area that is new to me but one that I’m interested in exploring. If I anyone has any suggestions/opportunities for the best way to connect in with existing work in this space or is searching for an able and interested person to further explore some of the existing research challenges please let me know.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Aisling O’ Driscoll.
>
>
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