Re: [icnrg] Question about draft-irtf-icnrg-deployment-guidelines

Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Fri, 07 September 2018 09:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Question about draft-irtf-icnrg-deployment-guidelines
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I will re-resed any thing about security then and see how the content is protected in the ICN and see if (like we did) in P2P (well is was social content consumption) if extra signatures can be added. For TV and video the studios have their own mechanisms but this is not what I am looking into (at least no now).  

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mjm
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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 2:13 AM, Trossen, Dirk <Dirk.Trossen@InterDigital.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie-Jose,
> 
> Interesting question but, in this case (considering deployment options at the architecture level), I would consider that you provide already the right answer: it's not really part of it.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dirk
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> From: icnrg [mailto:icnrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Marie-Jose Montpetit
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> Subject: [icnrg] Question about draft-irtf-icnrg-deployment-guidelines
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> Hi: 
> 
> ahead of the interim meeting I was re-reading the draft-irtf-icnrg-deployment-guidelines in the context of some AR/VR/MR and multisource multidestination apps I am working on. One aspect that is not clear to me is what happens when content that has rights management (or local distribution ruiles) is distributed with ICN (books, video, VR games etc.). I remembered a convoluted solution that we had to use for P2P distribution of TV signals way back. 
> 
> Did I miss something or it’s not really part of it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> mjm
> 
> Marie-Jose Montpetit, Ph.D.
> mariejo@mit.edu
> marie@mjmontpetit.com
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