Re: [Id-event] Subject Categories in Subject Identifiers

Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Mon, 13 July 2020 18:25 UTC

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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 11:24:33 -0700
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Hi Atul

I don't follow why this statement is true:

"Since this is a property of the subject rather than the event"

I would come to the opposite conclusion.

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On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:10 AM Atul Tulshibagwale <atultulshi=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Subject Identifiers will be used in various specifications about events
> pertaining to those subject identifiers. In order to determine the scope of
> the event, it is important to know what the transmitter of the event that
> includes the subject identifier refers to.
>
> For example, when a subject identifier specifies a phone number as the
> identifier, is the transmitter of the event that includes such a subject
> identifier specifying the user or the device represented by the subject
> identifier.
>
> Since this is a property of the subject rather than the event, it should
> be logically included in the subject identifier spec. Therefore, I'm
> proposing that we include a "subject category" claim within the subject
> identifier. The subject category could have one of the following values:
>
>    - *User*
>    - *Device*
>    - *Session*
>
> The above values are sufficient for the SSE profile, but other values may
> be possible (although such a possibility is not a part of my proposal
> <https://github.com/richanna/secevent/pull/1>).
>
> Thanks,
> Atul
>
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