[Ideas] IDEAS Chartering Result

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 October 2017 19:02 UTC

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Dear IDEAS list:


First of all, I want to thank everyone who has participated in the discussion of the proposed charter over the last couple of weeks, as well as everyone who has invested time in the development of related documents.


Today, in our Formal Telechat, the IESG reached consensus to not approve the proposed charter [1].  The discussion during the External Review period had a significant effect on the decision.  To be clear, this decision doesn’t close the door to any IDEAS-related work in the future.


I want to encourage everyone to continue the work, even if informally.  Part of the discussion during today’s call was about the possibility of holding a BoF at IETF 100 to focus on the privacy aspects.  I advocated against it because I think that the time is too short to organize and achieve a fruitful discussion.  Instead, I suggest side meetings and informal conversations to move the common understanding forward.


WG Chartering doesn’t have to be done during the “IETF cycle”, the IESG doesn’t have to wait until right before IETF 101 to consider a revised charter.  The process can be run at any point and a WG can have interim (virtual or physical) meetings any time.  Please keep that in mind as you move forward.



One of the issues mentioned during the External Review (and pointed out to me in private, by a couple of different people) had to do with the affiliation of most of the people advocating for the WG and offering clarifications.  Due to my recent change in affiliation [2], that group now includes me.  While I have only worked at me new employer for 4 days (including today!), I decided to not continue as sponsoring AD for this effort.  I don’t doubt anyone’s integrity or intention, but I think it is important to eliminate any appearance of being partial – the effectiveness of the IESG depends on the impartiality of its members!


Deborah Brungard, who, among other things, is the Responsible AD for the lisp WG, has volunteered to be the point of contact for the IESG.  As this effort moves forward and if a new charter wants to be put out for IESG consideration, please get in touch with Deborah.







[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ideas/ballot/ 

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/routing-discussion/QNH1Le1mqbFAHmoAwt0jQ-YsPuk