Re: [idn] proposed wg charter, goal & milestone update

"James Seng/Personal" <jseng@pobox.org.sg> Tue, 23 October 2001 07:21 UTC

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From: James Seng/Personal <jseng@pobox.org.sg>
To: david.hopwood@zetnet.co.uk, liana Ye <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
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Subject: Re: [idn] proposed wg charter, goal & milestone update
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See Section 1.3 of draft-ietf-idn-requirements-08.txt

But please dont rehash old arguments on domain names & host names. It is
a story which have no right answer. Go thru the archives (early 2000) if
you want.

-James Seng

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From: "liana Ye" <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
To: <david.hopwood@zetnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [idn] proposed wg charter, goal & milestone update


> I have seen domain names and host names are used
> interchangeably.  What is the difference?  Do anyone
> care to give a little more context?
>
> Liana
>
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:56:46 +0100 David Hopwood
> <david.hopwood@zetnet.co.uk> writes:
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> > James Seng/Personal wrote:
> > > Apologise for the late update as it taken some time to get the
> > wordings
> > > right. I shall list all the changes first and then the complete
> > charter
> > > below. Please comment.
> > >
> > > Changes 1: Add wordings to clarify the concept of "names vs
> > identifiers"
> > >
> > > "Domain names is one form of identifier. It does not have the
> > technical
> > > capability to encode names or languages information."
> >
> > The DNS *could* encode language/script information (or relations
> > between
> > corresponding names in different languages/scripts); all that would
> > need
> > is a new RR. What is true is that the names themselves are not
> > language-
> > tagged.
> >
> > Also, the requirements draft makes a useful distinction between
> > domain
> > names (which are octet strings) and host names (which are character
> > strings). Both are identifiers.
> >
> > I suggest:
> >
> >   "Domain names and host names are forms of identifier. Language
> >   information is not encoded in these names; that is, names from
> >   different languages are defined in a single namespace."
> >
> > - --
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